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		<description><![CDATA[You couldn&#8217;t make this stuff up if you tried. OK, I&#8217;m on the phone with Joel Comm right now. He&#8217;s been doing business online since 1995. He&#8217;s the co-creator of Yahoo Games. He wrote the Adsense Code, which got onto New York Times best selling list. He hosted and produced the first Internet reality show [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/scobleizer/1356120227/" title="Facebook mat on 151 University by Robert Scoble, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1421/1356120227_c3e88e5bc1.jpg" width="500" height="375" alt="Facebook mat on 151 University" /></a></p>
<p>You couldn&#8217;t make this stuff up if you tried.</p>
<p>OK, I&#8217;m on the phone with <a href="http://www.joelcomm.com">Joel Comm</a> right now. He&#8217;s been doing business online since 1995. He&#8217;s the co-creator of <a href="http://games.yahoo.com/">Yahoo Games</a>. He wrote <a href="http://www.joelcomm.com/the_adsense_code_on_amazoncom_1.html">the Adsense Code</a>, which got onto New York Times best selling list. He hosted and produced the first Internet reality show called <a href="http://www.nextinternetmillionaire.com/">the Next Internet Millionaire</a>. He was the guy who came up with <a href="http://ifartmobile.com/">iFart</a>, which <a href="http://www.edibleapple.com/ifart-developer-makes-40000-in-2-days/">got to be the #1 iPhone app on the iTunes store</a> for three weeks. He also has &#8220;<a href="http://www.joelcomm.com/twitter_power.html">Twitter Power</a>,&#8221; a book about Twitter coming out next month. You can find <a href="http://www.twitter.com/joelcomm">Joel on Twitter here</a>.</p>
<p>Translation: he&#8217;s not a &#8220;nobody&#8221; on the Internet who is a spammer.</p>
<p>But, <a href="http://www.facebook.com">Facebook</a> had a problem with him and kicked him off. Just like Facebook did to me just about a year ago. Why did this happen?</p>
<p>Well, he like me, has 4,999 friends which is the maximum allowed by Facebook. That&#8217;s not what got him in trouble. <em>&#8220;So, Scoble, why you writing about him?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s why: he has 900 people who want to be his friend on Facebook. So, since he can&#8217;t add them to his social graph he sends them an a nice individual note, customized each time. He would look at each person&#8217;s profile and send them a nice note. What did the notes say? Something like &#8220;nice seeing you at XYZ conference, I can&#8217;t add you as a friend because Facebook doesn&#8217;t let me add more than 4,999 friends so could you please join me over on my fan page?&#8221; Sometimes also he&#8217;d send them over to his book page, or his Twitter page. Again, he customized each message to the person who was asking. Nothing automatic.</p>
<p>But yesterday Facebook disabled his account and removed his account from the public social graph. &#8220;I am the invisible man.&#8221; Facebook did exactly the same thing to me a year ago.</p>
<p>You still can get to <a href="http://www.facebook.com/search_redirect.php?q=joel,comm&amp;fc=0&amp;gc=0&amp;cl=300&amp;rc=53&amp;rank=1&amp;friends=0&amp;sns=0&amp;sf=i&amp;init=s:quick&amp;cururl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Finit%3Dq%26q%3DJoel%2BComm%26ref%3Dts%26sid%3De5f4a9535e7a21c8d215f8c584b1cabf&amp;is_friend=&amp;sid=e5f4a9535e7a21c8d215f8c584b1cabf&amp;num_uq=1&amp;id=9907159309&amp;o_type=102&amp;rid=-1752132807&amp;ab=X&amp;t=c:name&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fpages%2FJoel-Comm%2F9907159309%3Fref%3Ds">his fan page</a>, but he can&#8217;t administer it any longer (he has 734 fans). <a href="http://www.facebook.com/groups.php?ref=sb#/group.php?sid=dec25875538be3adff2a250dcfccf63f&amp;gid=13182101115">He also has a group on Facebook</a>, which has more than 2,000 members. <a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=51451851556">Fifty people have already joined a group</a> to petition to have Joel added back to Facebook.</p>
<p>&#8220;So, why did they kick him off?&#8221; Because he triggered some sort of automatic alert that he was participating in spamming behavior.</p>
<p>&#8220;Did you get a warning,&#8221; I asked Comm.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes. When we were sending the messages we got a warning and we stopped,&#8221; Comm says.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why did they kick you off then?&#8221; I asked.</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t know, I stopped after they warned me. They kicked me off two days later. I have 900 people waiting to hear from me wondering why I&#8217;m ignoring them,&#8221; he told me.</p>
<p>&#8220;I try to log in now and it says my account is disabled. He sent them an inquiry and he got an email on January 22 at 1:42 p.m. Mountain Time. It says<em> &#8220;Hi. The Facebook team has received your inquiries. We should get back to you soon. In the meantime, we encourage you to review our terms of use ( http://www.facebook.com/terms.php ). For more information. Thanks for contacting Facebook. &#8212; the Facebook team.&#8221; </em></p>
<p>Comm has no access to his photos. No access to his videos. No access to his wall posts. &#8220;I have no access, period,&#8221; he says. <a href="http://www.joelcomm.com/facebook_booted_me_for_having.html">He wrote about the whole experience on his blog</a>. I Googled <a href="http://www.facebook.com/people/Joel-Comm/553450268">his Facebook account and</a>, right now, get a &#8220;Page Not Found&#8221; error. He has been &#8220;erased.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://scobleizer.com/2008/01/03/ive-been-kicked-off-of-facebook/">I had almost the same experience a year ago and got more than 600 comments on that post</a>. Every few days a new person leaves a sob story of getting kicked off of Facebook. I&#8217;ve complained about this quite a few times, including in public at SXSW when Mark Zuckerberg spoke at Facebook&#8217;s developer event there in 2008. I also have talked with Chris Putnam, head of Facebook&#8217;s video and security teams, as well as Sheryl Sandberg, Facebook&#8217;s Chief Operating Officer. Each time they say they will look into it. Each time nothing happens and the account disabling continues.</p>
<p>My account was closed like Joel&#8217;s although Facebook reinstated my account within 24 hours. I answered my email just like Joel did. Nicely and calmly. But I always assumed that getting to the top of TechMeme and getting hundreds of blogs to talk about the event helped get me reinstated too.</p>
<p>Irony: <a href="http://adsense-secrets.com/reports/facebook.pdf">He wrote a 30 page report on Facebook</a> on how social networking can improve your business which was very positive about Facebook.</p>
<p>Comm, like me, says he&#8217;ll be back on Facebook if they reenable his account but warns that people will get tired of this kind of treatment. &#8220;You know what, I don&#8217;t need big brother watching me and I&#8217;ll go use another site.&#8221;</p>
<p>Get Satisfaction, a site where you can leave customer complains for companies, <a href="http://getsatisfaction.com/facebook/topics/facebook_account_disabled">has an extensive thread on this issue</a>.</p>
<p>I agree. I refuse to use Facebook to conduct business and don&#8217;t upload many videos or photos there because I don&#8217;t support companies that &#8220;erase&#8221; MY data without my permission. I know of no other social network that does this in this way.</p>
<p>&#8220;So, Scoble, how should Facebook keep from having spammers take over its site? What should it do if it finds a legitimate spammer?&#8221;</p>
<p>If I were in charge at Facebook I would have a &#8220;jail.&#8221; If you broke the rules I&#8217;d move your account into &#8220;jail.&#8221; Everyone would be able to get to it, although you might have an icon that indicates the account has been thrown into jail. I would also turn off certain features on the account. I would just turn off messaging, for instance, if that person was abusing messaging. Or, turn off his/her ability to write on wall posts if he&#8217;s abusing privileges there.</p>
<p>I would NEVER delete or erase data. That&#8217;s highly unethical and really stupid when you need the trust of your users. Right now Facebook can do no wrong. It is getting 450,000 new users a day. So, they don&#8217;t care. But what about in four years when growth slows down and people discover a better system? I bet that they will wish they paid more attention to those issues then (sort of like Microsoft wishes it paid more attention to being a nice citizen back in the 1990s because it would help them get a better search service going today).</p>
<p>This week at the World Economic Forum I expect I&#8217;ll be seeing several executives from Facebook (they told me they were going). I&#8217;ll bring this issue up again with them and see if they have a better answer than they&#8217;ve had to date.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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